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"K" Conf now a yr old - - - now 18% plaque reduction - - whooooo hoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 6/26/2011 7:42:01 PM
 
Ok, for starters, ice breaker Margaritas then dinner
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Posted: 6/26/2011 8:35:24 PM
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HI, Pt--

I'd be very interested in knowing when the new assay for K2 via Schurgers and Vermeer might become available.

It would be potentially very helpful to have an index of K2 serum level and/or biologic potential.


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To DD n RB M on it


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GO Ptheut 
The Man on K
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This is exciting, can't wait to hear the special K report! Have fun soaking up the D while you are out there in Arizona for the K conference!


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item c) above. ptheut is that CT CAC or CtAngio in that study? Are they looking at CAC regression/progression and soft plaque occlusion by mk-7.


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h) is fascinating. ptheut is lconnoly or jgoldstrich at conference?
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no IC and JG is not here - - - too bad - - - lots of good stuff

only CT CAC is used


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Wish I was there.  Hope there is good airconditioning.


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Awesome stuff ! Thank you Ptheut
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Pt--Fabulous!

Have they said whether we can obtain transcripts or summaries of the talks? That would be helpful. It appears to be an incredible number of unique observations are emerging.


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Ptheut, Great reporting. I do not understand your point z. above, which probably just shows that I really do not understand the biochemical pathway for K. Would appreciate any enlightenment on why low TGs mean low K?
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Sweet stuff.  This is smokin'!  Gotta go now - to buy more K2!  So what's the consensus on best form - MK?

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to harry:

ximelagatran - - - 150mg per day orally

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ptheut,

Is Alpha the same as D-Alpha

"h.) Alpha Topherol is just as good as Warfarin for anti-coagulation - - - this really sturred up a hornets nest - - - but data is data"

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ptheut, you are amazing!



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ptheut________ at the conference... whats the discussion of Paleo Man 15,000-300,000 years ago with their sources of vit K's and amounts of vit K intake by them


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I maybe able to add people to the "K crowd" when set up.  I would also buy a transcript if available.


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Great work and thanks!
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thanks pt. VERY good information. you would have made a great medical student with notes like you posted.


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Now that was awesome.  Great Job Ptheut.  Keep on beating
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Hmmm....ferritin, I don't think I've ever had that checked.

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harry u r right on

obtw, Asians take up Crestor differently  = = = = hmmmm = = = might be tied into the how they abosorb K


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a.)  solid post on gut bacteria

b.)  Yest to beta cell regeneration - - - solid information - - - -  -MK-7 key player


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Life Extension makes a vitamin K supplement that contains K1 1000 mcg,  K2 MK4 1000 mcg, and  K2 MK7 100 mcg. It costs less at Iherb.com Are those amounts too low to be effective?
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Posted: 7/5/2011 8:49:06 AM
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LEF way too low.  20 a day would be effective if your baseline carboxylation were already pretty high. 
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Posted: 7/5/2011 10:44:17 AM
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This vitamin K product has been mention many times here on the forums.

www.invitehealth.com/vitamin-k2.html
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Posted: 7/5/2011 12:51:46 PM
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ptheut - Vitamin E is a big part of my program (though outside of the scope of TYP).  How much of a threat to K (or K2) do you think it is?

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Posted: 7/5/2011 7:20:35 PM
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ptheut -

So how do you recommend getting the right form and amount of 'K'?

I've been going the LEF route - sounds like that is probably not enough...  Any comments on sourcing K from Dr. Davis?


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Thanks Stuart the Osteporosis threads where very helpful.

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Posted: 7/6/2011 8:25:22 AM
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ptheut - is there a reasonable source for K2 in bulk?  Details?

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to pamoja:

still working on the Europe connection
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to Lconnolly:  u r right on, = = = =  that is why it is suggested to test your A level and then adjust accordingly
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What is FOS?


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Fructooligosaccharides! Prebiotics, like from fiber (chicory root), that feed good intestinal bacteria.

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thats easy for you to say


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Posted: 7/7/2011 6:38:59 PM
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ptheut -

Can you point me to some papers - documentation on K that you are basing this on?

Is there a book?

I would particularly like to see the papers that talk about the statins effect of K.
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