Cureality Proficiency Certifications and Awards X
Inner Circle Forums


Portions of the Undoctored Inner Circle Member Forum and its vast wealth of knowledge, are available only to our Members.
Becoming an Inner Circle Member will allow you to post topics, ask Dr. Davis questions, and view all replies.


My Calcium Score Tripled today over 2018 after 4 years of decline

Member Forum >> Coronary Disease & Cholesterol Protocol >> My Calcium Score Tripled today over 2018 after 4 years of decline

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Ignores Issued: 1
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 5:28:50 PM
Edited: 11/19/2020 5:33:58 PM (1)
 
The last time I had a scan it was

2018 and score was 89

2016 it was 107

2015 it was 118

Today it came back at 323

Left main 14
Left Anterior Descending 215
Circumflex 22
Right Coronary artery 72
Posterior Descending  0

Original Scan in 2015 
was

L Main 0
LAD 70
L Circumflex 0
Right Coronary Artery 48


I added regular statin (atorvastatin 20mg and now rovastatin 10mg).

I kept my course of cureality informed supplements, increased exercise, daily 4 hour eating window, diet got a little less strict in terms of carbs and sat fat.

LDL-P off statin is around 2200 sm ldl p around 600-1000

On statin it is around 1100 LDL-P and 250 SM LDL-P

Testosterone ok Free T 12.5 

TSH way better than 4 years ago 1.64 
Free T 3 2.8

D levels always maitained in 60-80 range

Lp(a) increasing to 175 from 108 since I added statin

Homocystiene 9
CRP .15
Omegas good - I live on fish

Has anyone see such a crazy increase simply due to statin use or might I be missing something?


By the way

Supplements - 

coq10
mag
koncentrated k x2
rutin
D
gotu kola
vitamin C 
l- citrulline
pine bark
garlic
daily natto






Paul
Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 5:44:11 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 6:36:49 PM
Edited: 11/19/2020 7:03:05 PM (1)
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 7:29:35 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 7:41:50 PM
Edited: 11/19/2020 7:50:02 PM (1)
 



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 7:42:44 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 7:50:21 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 7:57:04 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 9:08:56 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Malcolm

No Avatar

Join Date: 2/22/2014
Posts Contributed: 1831
Total Likes: 470
Recommends Recd: 2
Certs & Awards: 17   view

Likes Recd: 1
 
Posted: 11/19/2020 9:35:21 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Dr. Davis

No Avatar
Undoctored Staff

Join Date: 12/20/2007
Posts Contributed: 9320
Total Likes: 1466
Recommends Recd: 15
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 2
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 9:59:06 AM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 10:14:35 AM
Edited: 11/20/2020 11:36:36 AM (1)
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

max1001

No Avatar

Join Date: 3/23/2018
Posts Contributed: 167
Total Likes: 30
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 1
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 10:28:22 AM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 11:05:17 AM
 
Thanks Max, a lot for me to take away from that thread, I will greatly limit sat fat again now as well due to similar reaction to smdLDL upon Sat Fat consumption.


Tags:

max1001

No Avatar

Join Date: 3/23/2018
Posts Contributed: 167
Total Likes: 30
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 1
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 11:15:00 AM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

HeartHawk

No Avatar
Undoctored Staff

Join Date: 12/20/2007
Posts Contributed: 4052
Total Likes: 480
Recommends Recd: 13
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 1
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 12:43:58 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 1:02:11 PM
 
Thanks HH - I will ask my cardio if he thinks ezetimibe would be appropriate for me.  It was a costly experiment for me to stop niacin, ease up on carbs and sat fat and allow my numbers to go over plan as Bob has pointed out.
Tags:

max1001

No Avatar

Join Date: 3/23/2018
Posts Contributed: 167
Total Likes: 30
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 1:15:42 PM
 
HH,
Have you also restricted satfat in favor of monounsaturated fats in your diet?


Tags:

LCL

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/13/2008
Posts Contributed: 5776
Total Likes: 1474
Recommends Recd: 14
Certs & Awards: 3   view

Likes Recd: 2
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 8:07:39 PM
 
I don’t have any advice to add, just wanted to say I’m thinking of you and am sure you will figure it out.  Don’t forget, though, that you are doing lots of things right.

All my best!
Linda
Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 1
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 8:12:49 PM
 
Thanks Linda <3


Tags:

DianeS

No Avatar

Join Date: 3/5/2017
Posts Contributed: 8
Total Likes: 0
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 9:16:51 PM
 
No one has made any mention of this but I thought that statins were supposed to increase artery calcium deposition.  If that is true couldn’t that be the issue here?
Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/20/2020 9:40:56 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/21/2020 5:21:27 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

ptheut

No Avatar

Join Date: 12/24/2007
Posts Contributed: 6642
Total Likes: 425
Recommends Recd: 16
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/21/2020 6:29:11 PM
 
get your free t3 up


Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/21/2020 7:20:39 PM
 
Hi Pat my ft3 has been at this 2.5-2.8 level since 2014.  Why and how should I increase it?  I already eat lots of fish, nuts, seaweed.
Tags:

HeartHawk

No Avatar
Undoctored Staff

Join Date: 12/20/2007
Posts Contributed: 4052
Total Likes: 480
Recommends Recd: 13
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/21/2020 7:57:26 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

LCL

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/13/2008
Posts Contributed: 5776
Total Likes: 1474
Recommends Recd: 14
Certs & Awards: 3   view

Likes Recd: 2
 
Posted: 11/21/2020 8:14:13 PM
 
I had to take Armour and add T3 in order to increase my Free T3 without raising my Reverse T3.
Tags:

Boo

No Avatar

Join Date: 12/17/2009
Posts Contributed: 4746
Total Likes: 1037
Recommends Recd: 10
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/21/2020 8:35:14 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/21/2020 8:52:14 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Dr. Davis

No Avatar
Undoctored Staff

Join Date: 12/20/2007
Posts Contributed: 9320
Total Likes: 1466
Recommends Recd: 15
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 1
 
Posted: 11/22/2020 9:52:02 AM
 
Statin drugs do indeed accelerate the increase in CAC over doing nothing, but they would not account for such a precipitous rise, only a modest worsening. 


Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/22/2020 11:11:47 AM
 
Re: Endoxemia, another reason for me to cut out the saturated fat (according to Dr. Kahn).  Wouldn’t endotoxemia cause an elevated hsCRP?  I have never been over .4 since 2014 and test at least every 6 months.
Tags:

Malcolm

No Avatar

Join Date: 2/22/2014
Posts Contributed: 1831
Total Likes: 470
Recommends Recd: 2
Certs & Awards: 17   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/22/2020 1:06:20 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

max1001

No Avatar

Join Date: 3/23/2018
Posts Contributed: 167
Total Likes: 30
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/22/2020 1:59:02 PM
 
Pek,
Find out how many channels/detectors in the CT machine. Anything less than 64 is certainly obsolete and probably results in an inaccurate score.
Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 11/22/2020 5:29:09 PM
Edited: 11/22/2020 8:44:44 PM (2)
 
Light speed vct 64

Malcom thanks ! I listened to your recording. Great that you caught this error. I will check with my cardiologist and radiologist this week


Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 8:31:20 AM
 
Dr Davis’ suspicion was right.

Mercury Test came back positive: 26.7 (ref range 0.0-14.9)  May be a cause behind the sudden jump in my CAC score
Tags:

Iron Man

No Avatar

Join Date: 1/13/2020
Posts Contributed: 373
Total Likes: 65
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 8:39:16 AM
Edited: 12/2/2020 9:24:08 AM (1)
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 8:50:27 AM
Edited: 12/2/2020 8:51:34 AM (1)
 
I’m going vegan :(.

Cant eat fish - mercury poisoning
Cant eat sat fat/meat/dairy - apoe3/4 kicks up my sdLDL like crazy

I suspect I should test for all heavy metals now and seek Chelation IV
Tags:

Iron Man

No Avatar

Join Date: 1/13/2020
Posts Contributed: 373
Total Likes: 65
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 9:36:45 AM
Edited: 12/2/2020 9:49:41 AM (1)
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 9:53:49 AM
Edited: 12/2/2020 10:00:39 AM (1)
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 10:08:56 AM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Malcolm

No Avatar

Join Date: 2/22/2014
Posts Contributed: 1831
Total Likes: 470
Recommends Recd: 2
Certs & Awards: 17   view

Likes Recd: 1
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 2:49:33 PM
Edited: 12/2/2020 2:51:29 PM (1)
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 3:08:00 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Iron Man

No Avatar

Join Date: 1/13/2020
Posts Contributed: 373
Total Likes: 65
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 1
 
Posted: 12/2/2020 7:07:32 PM
Edited: 12/2/2020 7:09:05 PM (1)
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/3/2020 7:43:30 AM
Edited: 12/3/2020 8:09:13 AM (2)
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Toby Lime

No Avatar

Join Date: 6/14/2019
Posts Contributed: 1687
Total Likes: 125
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/3/2020 10:39:26 AM
Edited: 12/3/2020 10:47:41 AM (1)
 
Chelation therapy has long been used as a treatment for mercury and lead poisoning, but it isn’t a proven treatment for heart disease. It can potentially cause serious side effects when used as a heart disease treatment...people from Mayo Clinic say
Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/3/2020 11:32:12 AM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/3/2020 11:49:52 AM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

hopscotch

No Avatar

Join Date: 2/3/2011
Posts Contributed: 1900
Total Likes: 135
Recommends Recd: 8
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/3/2020 1:45:27 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/3/2020 2:53:30 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 12011
Total Likes: 1782
Recommends Recd: 9
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/3/2020 3:24:14 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

hopscotch

No Avatar

Join Date: 2/3/2011
Posts Contributed: 1900
Total Likes: 135
Recommends Recd: 8
Certs & Awards: 0   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/4/2020 6:50:07 AM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Pek

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/19/2015
Posts Contributed: 436
Total Likes: 47
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 8   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 12/4/2020 8:30:07 AM
 
Thanks hopscotch I have an appt Monday and will discuss your advice.



Tags: