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Gut Flora Resource Overview

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cover: Super Gut book

Edition: 2020-06-04

What this page summarizes is now the topic of an entire book: Super Gut
This page may point to updated and/or more recent resources.

Site Resources [members-only, except (public)]
Inner Circle Resources
Inner Circle kitchen: Yogurt & Probiotic Recipes
Pro Course: Cultivate Your Garden of Bowel Flora
Advanced Topics: Regularly Consuming Prebiotic Fibers
Video Library: Bowel Flora Species Diversity
Undoctored Protocols: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth
Advanced Topics: Fungal Overgrowth
Advanced Topics: Metabolic Endotoxemia
Advanced Topics: Homocysteine - a Marker for Dysbiosis
Advanced Topics: Advanced Topic: Fungal Overgrowth
Advanced Topics: A Primer on Stomach Acid and H. pylori
Advanced Topics: SIBO/SIFO and Anti-Aging
  Blog Resources
Blog: Telltale Signs of Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (public)
Blog: What does it mean if you are intolerant to prebiotic fibers? (public)
Blog: Can you fix a broken gut microbiome? (public)
Blog: Archaea: Hot springs, the Dead Sea, and your intestines (public)
Blog: What happens when you fail to regularly obtain prebiotic fibers? (public)
Blog: How to choose a probiotic
Blog: Lactobacillus reuteri: Does strain matter?
Blog: Akkermansia: Friend or foe?
   

What Have We Inherited (and what have we Lost)?

Probiotics, prebiotics, resistant starch — isn’t this just some fresh fleeting food fad?
  No.
What we are doing here is attempting to partially mimic an ancestral intestinal adaptation, one which has been derailed by modern food-like substances, pervasive anti-microbials and adverse personal environments. This dysbiosis appears to be a major contributor to the pantheon of rising, chronic, non-infectious, non-injury, largely optional ailments (and not a few actual infections: e.g. SIBO, Candida albicans, Clostridium difficile). Implications for behavioral disturbances must be pondered.

Putting this train wreck back on the rails needs to be a priority, just in consideration of the ASD trend alone. Some of that effort will, bluntly, be guesswork. As Viome results already reveal, a significant swath of microbiome is stuff that doesn’t even have names yet. We could be looking at crucial extinctions of unknown unknowns.

Our modern mimic menu, to address this, is partial, because the science about all this is still quite nascent. We know about as much about it as was known about overt microbial pathogens a century ago.

The ancestral case takes note that until quite recently, human hygiene was rather casual (if not absent). Food intake included a high microbial load, probably included more partially-processed starchy vegetables, esp. root crops, wild game offal, and lacked multiple modern gut antagonists: it had more microbes, more microbe substrate, and only natural antibiotics.

The Problem

[Too] often seen on the blogs and the forum:
◊ I get lots of “fiber”. Doesn’t that cover it?
◊ I take probiotics regularly. So I’m good, right?
â—Š I eat yogurt from time to time. So, under control, eh?

In a word, no. Those steps don’t cover it. As the lead artwork for this page suggests, there are four distinct aspects to this topic, which all must be attended to, and with different levels of stewardship.

The Context

Body Domain By Weight By Gene Count By Cell Count
Human Tissue 97% 50% 50%
Microbiota 3% 50% 50%

You are not 100% you. Depending on how you look at it, up to half, possibly more of you, is non-human living matter: the microbiome(s). The human body has multiple microbiomes, but the focus of this article is the intestinal one, the gut flora.

Gut microbes maintain gut barrier function, contribute to food digestion (producing important nutrients as byproducts), and regulate immune function. They influence mood and behavior.

The spectrum of microbes in the human gut is already known to include bacteria, eukaryotic parasites, fungi (e.g. yeasts), protozoans, archea and viruses (including bacteriophages). And then we have: BMC Biology Direct: Highly divergent ancient gene families in metagenomic samples are compatible with additional divisions of life.

The Undoctored / Wheat Belly Program

For your ancestors, none of this required any specific attention. It was just an inherent adaptation to daily life-support activities. For moderns, deliberate action is required, along with staying aware of new developments.

The ancestral experience is now inaccessible to many of us. Even for those of unbroken lineage on ancestral ground, is it even possible to find undisturbed, uncontaminated foraging acreage, on which we could resume a diet of frequent, casually-cleaned root crops? Or perhaps wild game, consumed snout to tail, including offal? And even those gambits assume we’d want to take on the pathogen risks.

So instead, we need to apply archaeology, anthropology, science history, modern scientific, medical and nutritional trial results, and, frankly, a bit of educated guesswork.

Note:
All of this discussion is within the context of the Undoctored or 2014+ Wheat Belly approach to diet. For anyone on a standard diet, that needs to be corrected first, or this element of the Undoctored approach is not likely to have a level of benefit commensurate with the effort. For legacy members of the Cureality and Track Your Plaque programs, the gut flora topic came in during 2014, and might have escaped your notice.⇱ Return to top


SEED: Probiotics — the actual gut flora

The program recommends a high potency (25 billion CFU multi-species probiotic), started 5 days prior to adding prebiotic fiber to the diet. Program reference material has specific product suggestions. Routine inclusion of fermented foods is also gaining prominence. “Seed” may need to become more frequent. Some interesting microbial species may not colonize well, and may need frequent topping-off.

A course of probiotics can have any of several objectives:

  1. mimic ancestral exposure to soil-based microorganisms;
  2. endeavor to correct modern distortions in your present population resulting from antagonists in modern diets and personal environments (see WEED on that);
  3. actually provide specific strains for their beneficial byproducts in specific scenarios, or
  4. attempt to compensate for unavoidable courses of prescription antibiotics.

All but one or two commercial probiotics so far are just bacteria, and those are probably just the strains with a comfortable evidence base. Entirely apart from not providing viruses, protozoans, potentially beneficial parasites, and the unknown unknowns, it is likely that today’s products are well short of optimal just on bacteria. So the Undoctored program is aggressively exploring this, for example, the early 2018 informal testing of Lactobacillus reuteri, and adding Lactobacillus casei (Shirota) in 2020.

So another source of probiotic cultures is fermented foods that deliver live cultures. At retail, this requires some effort, because few fermented foods still have living microbes in them at point of sale. Live culture foods often require refrigeration, and have a much shorter shelf life than those subjected to various preservative techniques.

Of those products that do have live cultures, the CFU counts (colony forming units) may be uselessly low. With retail yogurts in particular, in addition to low CFUs, far too many are low-fat, high-sugar junk foods that raise blood sugar and could easily promote growth of adverse gut microbes.

This all being the case, making your own fermented foods is a growing topic in the program. Here are some search expression links, on “ferment” and “recipe”:
Undoctored Blog
Wheat Belly Blog
By the way, if your fermentation attempts fail using your tap water, drinking that water likely has the same result for the desired fermentation in your gut.

So far, no upper limit has appeared for ingested gut microbes (probiotics), and this may well need some attention.⇱ Return to top


FEED: Prebiotic Fiber

Gut flora have nutrition requirements that can be quite different from what humans nominally consider food. Many microbes thrive on prebiotic fiber, which usually needs deliberate attention in diet. Applying that attention has challenges in today’s markets.

  • We don’t just want just the microbes. We also want their metabolites, and that requires feeding them.
     
  • We want trillions of these microbes, and probiotics only provide billions, perhaps only millions in fermented foods. Feeding them grows populations.
     
  • Even if doing daily probiotics, whether as probiotic capsules or as live-culture fermented foods, these do not represent the entire spectrum of desired commensal life forms. So we need to encourage other residents and environmental opportunists by feeding all the beneficials.

Prebiotic fiber, also known as soluble fiber, and which includes “resistant starch” is a carbohydrate, but essentially never listed separately on food packages. All carbohydrates are saccharides (sugars), but their molecular forms vary greatly in effect. From a digestive (but not chemistry) point of view, carbohydrates can broadly be broken into three categories:

  1. Net carbs (digestible fiber)
    These are the digestible carbs, either inherently simple sugars, or saccharide polymers that are easily cleaved by human enzymes to simple sugars (such as grain amylopectin, cleaved by amylase). These foods become (principally) blood glucose and blood fructose promptly (usually before reaching the colon). FDA-style Nutrition Facts panels do not state net carbs, but it can be calculated trivially:
      Net_carbs = Total_carbs minus (total)Fiber
  2. Prebiotic fiber
    These are saccharide polymers not easily cleaved by human enzymes, but which are digestible by gut flora, producing more gut flora, and various byproducts, chiefly SCFAs (short chain fatty acids). NF panels never state prebiotic content (and the FDA has no standards for it, if the brand desires to). Most nutritional apps are useless on this as well, often failing to differentiate raw/unripe vs. cooked/ripe whole foods. Prebiotic content cannot be calculated from the “Fiber” value on the NF panel, but won’t exceed it. This situation motivated a UIC member to create a guide for this:Prebiotic Fiber Sources
  3. Insoluble fiber
    Also known as roughage, these polymers (cellulose is an example) pass through intact. Program guidance is that we need some amount of this, but not a lot. Due to unlimited amounts of non-starchy vegetables in the diet, most people usually get ample. Deliberate supplementation is often a mistake. It makes more sense to address any underlying dysbiosis than to try to compensate for consequences by throwing this kind of fiber at it.

Present program guidance is to work up gradually to 20 grams of mixed and varied prebiotic fibers per day. If an adverse reaction is encountered when doing that, particularly a prompt reaction, suspect SIBO.

More than 20? Could be. Some members may be getting 50 grams per day or more. Some studied cultures get as much as 140, but they also have dramatically different gut flora.⇱ Return to top


WEED: Cultivation disruptors and frank dysbiosis

There are two separate sub-topics here:
• modern gut antagonists (what Dr. Davis terms raccoons), and:
• dysbiosis conditions that don’t respond to program guidance on cultivation of gut flora.

Gut antagonists

You can do a course of probiotic, then implement daily prebiotic fiber, and be wasting your time, if the ecosystem, or even physiology, is being clobbered by toxins and stealth antibiotics. Our ancestors, again, other than avoiding poisonous plants, didn’t need to worry very much about this; you do.

The Undoctored / Wheat Belly diet already accounts for the important physiological toxins that open the tight junctions of the gut, or cause direct gut wall damage, allowing random food-borne elements into the bloodstream, provoking inflammation and needless allergic reactions. Eliminating the grains that precipitate zonulin, and lectins like WGA (including rice) are major elements here.

As Dr. Davis’s raccoons article points out, several other modern food, food-like and non-food hazards need to be watched for, and eliminated if possible. I’ll add some remarks to his from that article:

  • Water treatment
    What’s in your municipal water? What are you doing to eliminate it? You might consider stopping consumption of establishment-prepared beverages (except where RO filtering is in use, such as Starbucks), due to chloramine being pervasive and persistent in muni water. More on water. Commercial ice cubes have been observed that has even more chloramine added to it.
  • Prescription/OTC/second-hand antibiotics
    Most people have figured out that taking an antibiotic is likely to blitz the gut microbes (and intentionally so in SIBO treatment). Doing a course of probiotics in concert with that may prove useful. But most people are unaware of all the other sources of antibiotics (triclosan in toothpaste might be an egregious example). You may have given some thought to antibiotics in CAFO animal products, but that might actually be a smaller hazard than undeclared antibiotic properties of various medications you might be using. The term antibiotic strictly means anti-bacterial. We need to be concerned about the wider concept of anti-microbial.
  • Anti-microbials
    This includes antibiotics (above), but also anti-virals (yeast, fungus), and anti-parasitics. Preservatives fall into this category, and are yet-another reason why processed food-like substances need to be avoided. Field, storage and transport pesticides are a problem on vegetables that are not organic (and maybe even some that are, as an organic-approved pesticide is still an anti-microbial). Wash your food. Even something as simple as pre-shredded cheese is a potential hazard, as an anti-fungal like natamycin will often be seen in the Ingredients list (not to mention grain-based flow agents). If you can’t find a shredded cheese that’s just cheese, shred your own.
  • Emulsifiers
    These are another reason to avoid processed food-like substances, until you know how to recognize benign ingredients. Program advice is to avoid all added emulsifiers, whether synthetic or natural. Carrageenan is annoyingly common in milk and cream. Some candidate prebiotic fibers have emulsifying properties, and are under continuous review as regard suitability for use in the program, for example, guar.
  • Artificial sweeteners
    The natural alternative sweeteners endorsed in the program have no known adverse effects on gut flora. The same cannot be said for the artificial sweeteners pervasive in the vast majority of retail sugar-free products. That the synthetic sweeteners commonly fail to deliver on their weight loss promises appears to largely be due to disruption of gut flora.
  • Megadose iodine
    UIC member Video Forum: Megadose Iodine?
    So don’t do that (except as an intentional antibiotic in a specific therapy, if a protocol emerges). Attend to iodine intake, but within program targets.

Actual weeds (undesired species or strains)

Despite doing all of the foregoing, it is still possible (and too commonly so) to discover that what’s been present all along is some sort of persistent overgrowth, most frequently SIBO, but Candida, C.diff and H.pylori need to remain on the radar until ruled out.

The program has a specific protocol for SIBO, and still evolving. If cultivating gut flora doesn’t result in a clear trend toward eubiosis (below), further investigation may be required.⇱ Return to top


HEED: Hints of eubiosis

Eubiosis is healthy gut microbiome. No one knows what that is supposed to look like, much less optimal microbiome. Naturally, there are no tests available yet that can confirm it, and it’s going to be some time before projects like Genova GI Effects, Viome, and others yield profiles correlated to excellent healthspan. So how can we tell if we have a possibly nominal gut flora, and in particular, how can we tell if a problem like SIBO is resolved?

Easy-to-observe near-term presentation indicators include:

  • no general intestinal distress
  • no constipation
  • no diarrhea
  • smooth and regular outcomes
  • no free oil residues
  • no excess or foul-smelling flatulence
  • no adverse reaction to mixed and varied dietary prebiotic fiber in the 20-gram range

And then, over time, expect:

  • periodic occult stool test is negative
  • food sensitivities go away
  • skin issues clear up
  • autoimmune labs improve
  • weight loss plateau un-stalls
  • gradual improvements are seen in secondary markers, like BG, BP, and inflammation
  • some aches and pains, e.g. migraines, might recede noticeably
  • you return to your optimal self

Beyond that, UIC members may want to follow the discussion on this thread, in which several common markers were proposed, plus one emergent lab test (Dunworthy). A home Hâ‚‚ and CHâ‚„ breath test (the AIRE2 device) is also now available. Its use is discussed in the SIBO Protocol.⇱ Return to top


In Conclusion

A crucial problem moderns settler populations face is the development of antibiotics, food preservatives, water treatment and field pesticides. Over the last century, human guts may have been blasted by an ever-changing, ever-growing assault from the food system, routine prescription and OTC meds, gratuitous antiseptics, and a near complete lack of routine exposure to environmental  microorganisms to top off with, and a diet deficient in microbial substrate. The resulting dysbiosis further compounds over human generations (due to deficient maternal transfer, and may be a major factor in the pandemic ASD trend). It’s going to take some time to fix it, and what exactly to do is very far from obvious. The Undoctored/WB program is an early adopter of the most promising strategies.⇱ Return to top

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I know its on the website somewhere (probably multiple times) but I couldn’t quickly find it; roughly how many grams of prebiotic fiber are included in a large raw potato?  Thanks
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Are green mango and green papaya good sources of prebiotic fibre?

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I really dislike sweet smoothies... I have to force myself to drink those... for me it’s a lot easier to incorporate Prebiotic fiber as a food... same with probiotics
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Thank you Bob! I think it’s been like that for a very long time. I could. never access it....
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Hi All:
I’m starting Bob’s fiber formulation, with Flax seed vs Chia. Good for what airs ya.
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Bob
Is it better to take probiotics/prebiotics supplements on an empty stomach or with food?
And is there a different answer for probiotics versus prebiotics?


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Thanks, Bob, for the clarification


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