Username: Password:


Cureality Proficiency Certifications and Awards X
Inner Circle Forums


Portions of the Undoctored Inner Circle Member Forum and its vast wealth of knowledge, are available only to our Members.
Becoming an Inner Circle Member will allow you to post topics, ask Dr. Davis questions, and view all replies.


Recipe Macronutrients

Inner Circle Member Forum >> Inner Circle Polls >> Recipe Macronutrients

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 5484
Total Likes: 862
Recommends Recd: 6
Ignores Issued: 0
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 7/15/2017 12:05:57 PM
Edited: 7/31/2017 4:06:50 PM (2)
 

Recipe Macronutrients

Edition: 2017-07-31

I’m not actually sure this is open for debate, but what do people want in the way of macronutrient, or even micronutrient data for program recipes?

Possible Ballot Choices

(In case HH wants to set this up as a poll)

  1. None
    But perhaps need some resource-wide statement of recipe design targets such as max net carbs
  2. Exception Only
    None, plus caveats on potential provocations
  3. Basic
    Fat, Protein, Total carb, Fiber Carb
  4. FDA Basic
    Basic plus Sat.Fat and Sodium
  5. FDA NF Panel
    To Nutrition Facts standard
  6. Net Carbs only
    Because math is so hard
  7. Program Key
    Net carbs and prebiotic fiber carbs
  8. Program Comprehensive
    Program Key plus core micronutrients (iodine, Mg, ω3, Vitamin D) and common extended/limited micros (B12, Fe, folate, potassium, Vitamin Ks, Zn, ω6LA)
  9. Other
    Because polls always have flawed choices.

There’s a further sub-question of: where does any macro or micro info need to appear? Possibilities might include but not be limited to:
  u2610_ballot_box recipe footnote
  u2610_ballot_box book appendix
  u2610_ballot_box open-access website
  u2610_ballot_box subscription website

Web hosting of macro/micro data has the advantage of being able to both revise the numbers as new data arises, and evolve the presentation as new elements need to be considered.

The Challenges as I see it

The program suggests counting two things:
1. net carbs (to max)
2. prebiotic fiber carbs (to target)
3. imprecise recipes

(1) NC may be presumed to be 15 grams or less for program recipes, but where the recipe is for only one element of a meal, that may not be sufficient data.

(2) Prebiotic fiber carbs are a major nuisance to determine. NF panels are close to useless on this as the "Fiber Carb" number is just an upper bound, and the prebiotic fraction can easily be zero. Resources for ingredient content are hard to come by, and almost always involve highly-error-prone units conversions and scaling math.

(3) Recipes offering a choice of ingredients, or amounts thereof, would result in needing a range for macro/micro data. "Sweeten to taste", "use almond or coconut flour", "blueberries optional"; that sort of thing.

Program History

The original Wheat Belly book did not include macros for the recipes. People complained on the blog, and the two cookbooks that followed include macros. Two recent books do not have macros, nor do recent blog recipes, and people are once again complaining (example, example, example, example).

  • 2011-08: Wheat Belly
    No macros.
  • 2013-01: Wheat Belly Cookbook
    Has basic FDA macros.
  • 2013-12: WB 30-Minute (Or Less!) Cookbook
    Has basic FDA macros
  • 2014-05: Cureality Official Recipes
    No macros.
  • 2014-08: Wheat Belly Total Health
    No macros.
  • 2015-11: WB 10-Day Grain Detox
    Has basic FDA macros.
  • 2017-01: Wheat Belly Slim Guide
    No macros.
  • 2017-05: Undoctored
    No macros.

___________
Bob Niland [disclosures] [topics]

Tags: macronutrients

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 5484
Total Likes: 862
Recommends Recd: 6
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 7/15/2017 12:07:14 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

xtronics

No Avatar

Join Date: 3/2/2009
Posts Contributed: 2951
Total Likes: 127
Recommends Recd: 6
Certs & Awards: 2   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 7/15/2017 3:00:34 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Bob Niland

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/7/2014
Posts Contributed: 5484
Total Likes: 862
Recommends Recd: 6
Certs & Awards: 39   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 7/15/2017 3:20:07 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Medford

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/19/2017
Posts Contributed: 72
Total Likes: 4
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 12   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 7/30/2017 8:45:42 AM
 
I like number 8, but less would be fine. I’m still learning.
Tags:

MarkBruns

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/27/2017
Posts Contributed: 34
Total Likes: 12
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 16   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 8/1/2017 5:22:17 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

SpiNNy

No Avatar

Join Date: 9/24/2016
Posts Contributed: 370
Total Likes: 17
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 5   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 8/10/2017 5:03:39 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:

Ceithlenn

No Avatar

Join Date: 7/1/2017
Posts Contributed: 240
Total Likes: 95
Recommends Recd: 1
Certs & Awards: 1   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 8/26/2017 1:13:46 PM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!



Tags:

Nola3633

No Avatar

Join Date: 12/26/2017
Posts Contributed: 18
Total Likes: 1
Recommends Recd: 0
Certs & Awards: 2   view

Likes Recd: 0
 
Posted: 1/11/2018 4:48:33 AM
 
Reply Content Hidden!

Post replies longer than 250 characters are restricted to Full Access Members (make certain you are logged-in!).

Sign Up Today!

Tags:


About The Inner Circle
A Message from Dr. Davis
Undoctored Inner Circle Origins
Introducing Your Member Advocate
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Inner Circle Videos

Inner Circle Forums

Undoctored Blog

The Undoctored Protocols
Arthritis & Joint Pain
Atrial Fibrillation
Calcium Oxylate Kidney Stones
Cholesterol
Constipation
Coronary Disease
Diabetes & Pre-Diabetes
Fatty Liver Disease
Osteopenia & Osteoporosis
Skin Health
Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth
Advanced Topics
Ketosis, MCTs, and Exogenous Ketones
Oxytocin
Preventing Cognitive Decline: Lifestyle
Preventing Cognitive Decline: Nutrition
Preventing Migraine Headaches

Recipes & Meal Plans
Recipes
42-Day Meal Plan
Meal Planning Tool

Undoctored Marketplace

Member Extras
Cureality Archive
Live Video Meetups
Low-Cost Health Insurance
Member Polls
Practitioner Registry
Program Reference
Website Guide
New Members Start Here
Your Undoctored Life!
Pre-Program Preparation
The First 10 Days
The Next 32 Days

Contact Us

Policies
Terms of Use
Medical Disclaimer
Copyright Infringement
Get Started
Join Now

Follow Us:

 
© Copyright 2018 Track Your Plaque, LLC Powered by Gravity Marketing