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The Cause of Heart Disease
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Posted: 8/20/2016 2:09:30 PM Edited: 8/6/2017 1:16:04 PM (10)   OK, so lets sum up all the theories of the causes of heart disease. 1) Cholesterol - oh the grandaddy.  It’s so cuddly and easy to understand.  It gets into your arteries by sheer osmotic pressure.  One thing I still don’t understand is that cholesterol doesn’t get into your arteries, LIPOPROTEINS do.  If it’s osmotic pressure, then why don’t our arteries fill up with albumin.  There’s like 10 times more albumin in the blood, as there are lipoproteins.   2) Smaller Cholesterol - so if cholesterol is small enough, it gets stuck in the cracks of your arteries.  Dr. Eades believes that cholesterol isn’t the "cause" of CAD, no matter how small you slice it. 3) Vit C Deficiency - Good ole Dr. Pauling and Dr. Rath.  CAD is a form of scurvy. 4) Saturated fat - bacon grease will kill you. It’s obvious.  See Dr. Keyes. 5) All Fat - Good ole Dr’s Ornish and Esselstyn.  You need to be on a ZERO fat diet to survive. 6) Meat - especially red meat, this kind of goes along with the above two in a vegan template. 7) PUFA’s (Bad Fats) - too much omega 6’s, especially trans fats, hydrogenated fats, vegetable oils.  Ray Peat is big on this.  PUFA (including fish oil) are the CAUSE of heart disease. 8) High Insulin/high blood sugar - see Ivor Cummins talks.  Higher inflammation. 9) Wheat - See Dr. Davis.  Wheat raises your blood sugars and causes a immune response. 10) Bacterial - blood born bacteria (mostly from the mouth), get into the cracks in your arteries and LDL/Macrophages chase them into the arterial wall to kill them.  See Dr. Thomas Levy. 11) Viruses - cytomegalovirus, herpes, and chlamydia infect the arteries in the heart. 12) Fungi - the new kid. 13) Neovascularization - as I recall increased arterial wall thickness causes increased penetration of the vaso-vasorum to seed cholesterol, thus NOT from the lumen of the artery. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359644616301921 14) Bad Genes - although we’ve yet to discover precisely which genes that might be or what their epi-genetic triggers might be. 15) The Diet/Heart Hypothesis - an over reaching umbrella.  What you eat, or don’t eat, gives you heart disease.  Lest we forget, this is still just a HYPOTHESIS, it’s not a LAW.  There IS the Law of Gravity or the Law of Momentum (F=MA).  There’s no such thing as the Diet-Heart LAW.  16) The Microbiome - you’ve got the wrong microbiome.  But since there should be, I’ve heard up to 2000 species in our gut, and modern man might only have like 200 species, it might take awhile to figure out which bugs you need. 17) Nanobacteria - Dr Roberts is a fan of this.  Books like The Calcium Bomb. Here’s a paper Nano Bacteria Fact or Fiction.   So you’d think if that was it, you’d get chelated, get hefty rounds of tetracycline and then your CAC would start to fall, fall, fall.  But, like Vit C, we’ve not seen that.  I think Frank went through that.  Maybe he’ll chime in.   (Boo, I copied in 16 &17 here from your later post, HH, 8/6/17) Or to hedge your bets, you try to combine as many of the above as possible using the Shotgun Approach, hoping you’ll hit something.  The problem is you can’t be on a No fat, no cholesterol, no meat, no sugar, no grain diet, no carb diet (for long). Lots of blank space to add more Tags:

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Posted: 9/6/2016 8:49:23 PM   We have a lot of people here doing the same thing - why isn't it working for them??? -S- Tags:

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Posted: 9/6/2016 9:20:56 PM   I don't know why it didn't work for everyone. Some people didn't stick to the diet 100% but maybe that didn't matter much. Tags:

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Posted: 9/7/2016 8:43:29 PM   Perhaps because bariatric surgery improves insulin sensitivity Tags:

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Posted: 9/7/2016 9:03:11 PM   Or maybe it's just the weight loss Tags:

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Posted: 9/7/2016 10:32:49 PM   My BMI was way too high when my calcium score was 8. I developed metabolic syndrome when I had to participate in taste panels for years tasting sugary food products. I think there are more factors involved than weight loss. Tags:

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Posted: 9/7/2016 10:42:22 PM   I agree with that. My point is what if it's not the surgery itself but the weight loss that resulted from the surgery, that was the causative factor in the results Tags:

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