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  Baribrooks
  First Post Date: 7/31/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/2/2021
RECENT NMR results: Dr. Davis, I’d appreciate your insights--thx!
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  Boo
  First Post Date: 11/25/2019,   Last Post Date: 8/2/2021
Vaccines...What do you think?
Here’s an interesting Video. (I’m not FOR or AGAINST)

79.4% of Infant deaths received >1 vaccine the same day

That sounds terrible. This is where Undoctored patients have to use their brains. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6771280/

Question #1: How many infants die "normally" during the same time period?

Whether you call it "SIDS" or not, isn’t dead still dead?

But I didn’t see that the "normal" infants were un-vaccinated.

Why can’t ANYTHING be easy?
I read the article several times.

At any rate, the doctors were a little too glib in my view.
If it was their son was lying there dead...they wouldn’t be smiling.



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Fitness: Michael: I am glad you got your second dose of the vaccine. I can’t wait to get mine on the 1st of March. Hope I do not have any mayor issues.  Mine was the Moderna vaccine,
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  Keoni61
  First Post Date: 8/1/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/2/2021
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  bjeans
  First Post Date: 7/26/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/2/2021
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Dr. Davis : Wow, nice to hear, Bj! 

Please share more about your story, as we’d all love to hear what you learned and experienced over the years.
Posted: 7/26/2021


  FCT
  First Post Date: 12/4/2012,   Last Post Date: 8/2/2021
Why we should NOT Vaccinate our dogs
I thought it would be a good time to post this since not only have I been thinking about it, but the timing might be good since Lynn just started a thread on flu shots.

I have been thinking about minimizing vaccinations when I get another dog. A lot. When my Golden Retriever had lymphoma, we went went to a holistic vet who said not to give him any vaccinations because of the cancer. He told me if he was due for rabbies he would fill out an exempt form as he needed his immune system strong to beat the cancer. He was beating the cancer, but got paralyzed from a neurological disorder. He was 12.5 years old so he did live a good long life for a Golden Retriever.

What my vet told me got me to think a little. I did not get my sons immunized, and just took for granted this should be done for my dog. Some of the information I am reading; like how long after his immunization he got ill and died, is written in these sites. This might not be a coincidence. Now that I am thinking of getting another Golden, I am going to re think some of these things I was told would be good for my pet, might not be true. I am reading that some people have their pets immunized only once. Also instead of getting them all at once, they spread them out. So maybe, just giving good nutrition, and feeding raw, might not be enough.

http://vonhapsburg.homestead.com/whyweshouldnotvaccinate.html

Vaccines. Vaccinations play a role in causing cancer. Cancer is often diagnosed within a month after a pet's annual vaccinations. In cats, vaccine associated sarcomas (VAS) are well documented. Vaccination-site tumors may occur when a pet receives repeated needle-sticks in the same place year after year. Components of the vaccination formula aside from the actual vaccine (adjuvants) may cause cancer to develop.

http://www.dogster.com/lifestyle/vaccines-cause-dog-cancer-dogs-vet

So what does the dog lovers @ TYP have to say about this?

Frank

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FCT: There life would probably be very sad if their master went first. I am glad he did not have to go through the pain I feel.

Frank
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  Bob Niland
  First Post Date: 5/16/2019,   Last Post Date: 8/2/2021
LDL: To C or not to C

LDL: To C or not to C

Edition: 2019-09-29


Just what does the "C" in LDL-C stand for? I’m getting less certain every day. Some sources report that it stands for "Cholesterol". Other sources report that it stands for "Calculated". Even if we nail that down, we’re still a long way from the whole character string being an abbreviation of anything remotely useful.

LDL

These initials stand for Low Density Lipoproteins. When this abbreviation is used with no further qualification, it’s completely useless. When I see it, I assume it’s been spoken or written by someone seriously careless or under-informed.

Here’s lipidologist Thomas Dayspring being pretty blunt about it recently:

  First of all, the misinformation on labeling lipid metrics is one of the things that it’s a miracle hasn’t given me a stroke yet. I do a lot of peer review. I’m one of the associate editors of the Journal of Clinical Lipidology, and I will reject a paper instantly that uses improper lipid metrics. Don’t tell me the LDL is this, because LDL is a low density lipoprotein. It’s not a laboratory metric. You want to tell me what the LDL-cholesterol is, the LDL particle number is, the lipidomics of an LDL, is the LDL oxidized or not? Great. We do have assays that will measure all of those. Don’t identify yourself as an ignoramus. And look, I’ve told this to many of the top lipidologists in the country, well actually, “Stop telling people, what’s your LDL.”  

As LDL-Cholesterol

On the standard lipid panel, is the LDL estimated or measured, and in either case, how? If we know the C stands for “cholesterol”, the number is still a complete mystery.

On the standard panel, of course, the TG and HDL numbers are quite useful. The TC not so much. VLDL-C, if present, may be a flat out insulting joke (TG÷5). The “LDL” number is why this page is here.

As LDL-Calculated

If we know the author/speaker means “calculated”, we’re likewise not much further along. As LDL-Calculated or calculated LDL-C, we now at least know it’s a guess, based on a standard lipid panel (usually CPT Code 80061), but which guess? The top three forms of calculated LDL estimate are:
LDL-C (Friedewald)
LDL-C (Martin-Hopkins)
LDL-C (other: Iranian, Hatta or Puavilai)

We rarely see them identified as such, and they need to be. What these calculations all have in common is that they are trying to torture 3 actual measurements (TC, TG, HDL) into confessing something that they don’t really know, namely: do your LDL particles include any that are atherogenic.

LDL-C (Friedewald) uses this approximation:
  LDL = TC - HDL - (TG ÷ 5) (in mg/dL)
Dr. Davis has written about this folly many times. Here’s one: How To Get Off Statins

LDL-C (Martin-Hopkins)
In the Friedewald approximation, VLDL is presumed to be TG÷5. M-H uses the same approach, but replaces the 5 with a variable factor from a table.

M-H is gradually replacing Friedewald, and appears to have completely deprecated all the other pretenders to the throne of: most impressive fake LDL number to scare patients with.

If low density lipoproteins matter, and they do, they need to be actually measured, which leads us to the next mess.

As Measured “Direct” LDL[-C]

This (CPT Code 83721) is also known as Direct LDL-C, Direct LDL, DLDL or LDL-D. It actually measures LDL, but still lumps all the subfractions together.

When TG is above 400 mg/dL (yikes), the lab doing the lipid panel may silently perform a DLDL and report that.

LDL-P: What We Really Want

Low Density Lipoproteins do matter, and deserve to be actually measured, not guessed at. Lipoprotein subfractions can be measured, and assays for this have been available for “only” about a quarter century now. Why they aren’t used more often, if not routinely, says a lot about the supposed specialty of cardiology.

There are three major assay methods (all still based on a simple blood draw):
  NMR (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance), CPT Code 83704
  VAP (Vertical Auto Profile), CPT Code 83701
  Electrophoresis: CPT Code 83700

NMR is the preferred test on this site. In addition to being the assay that Dr. Davis recommends, it’s the one most familiar to the readership. The key value is:
  NMR Small LDL-P (target: < 200 mmol/L)
and this is a number that cannot be teased out of a standard lipid panel (although when you get an NMR, you’ll probably get another lipid panel anyway).

VAP and electro can be useful, if you have a skilled practitioner who is familiar with them. VAP was off the market for a while, and is now back, but the Undoctored program hasn’t yet re-evaluated it for suitability.

The total LDL-P Particle Number is no longer a key focus. Dr. Davis: “…high or highish LDL particle number in the absence of small LDL particles is a gray zone: We do not know how atherogenic (plaque-causing) this situation is. My suspicion is that it is not plaque-causing or is minimally so, as we have had plenty of people with high LDL particle number, all large, with zero heart scan scores.

Confounders and Closing Remark

Since it’s almost always the case that at least something has been measured, it’s further necessary to know if the test was done fasting, and not in the context of any weight loss in the preceding 30 days, both of which distort lipoproteins generally, and TG in particular. If these criteria aren’t met, even an actual LDL-P measurement is not useful.

Needless to say, if you’ve ever heard…

“I’m prescribing a statin for you
because your ‘LDL’ is too high”

…you might need to be looking for a real doctor.
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  searcher7
  First Post Date: 9/10/2019,   Last Post Date: 8/2/2021
Effects of the microbiome on longevity

A clinical study on elderly Irish people over the age of 65 found that Bacteroidetes and Firmicutes were the dominant phyla of their microbiota. Bacteroidetes made up 53% of the core microbiota of the elderly compared to 8-27% in younger adults.

Bacteroidetes are gram-negative bacteria that ferment polysaccharides and otherwise indigestible carbohydrates and produce short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs) that have many beneficial effects in the gut. Bacteroides are fat feeders which block inflammation within the body which has a great impact on helping speed up the body’s metabolism. Studies have shown that when there is a higher ratio of Firmicutes within the gastrointestinal tract, that there is a link to obesity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20571116

A double-blind study trialing Lactobacilus acidophilus for six weeks had significant effects on serum insulin, C-reactive protein and uric acid. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23786900

A study of supercentenarians aged 105-109 years old were found to have Ruminococcaceae, Lachnospiraceae and Bacteroidacea families. We probably won’t find these species in commercial probiotics yet. Other bacteria associated with slower aging are Bifidobacterium, Akkermansia ,Christensenellaceae, Caprococcus, Faecalibacterium and Roseburia. Chrisensenellaceae is positively associated with improved kidney function.

A study in Japan and a study in China found that long -lived subjects had a greater diversity in their microbiome compared to younger subjects.


E. coli is linked with inflammatory disease, Crohn’s disease, breast cancer, colon cancer and prostate cancer.



 




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  JustMargie
  First Post Date: 8/2/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/2/2021
How can I make a program compatible white sauce?
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  PTrooper1
  First Post Date: 7/5/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
Question about getting started
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  Ryan
  First Post Date: 8/1/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
Coherence Exercise
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Ryan: I am still confused how to make sense of this data. How long the session needs to be, and what curve type is best to use?

Any input is appreciated.
Posted: 8/1/2021


  Rodney D
  First Post Date: 7/21/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
SIBO, IMO, IBS & The New 3-Gas SIBO Breath Test with Dr. Mark Pimentel
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  TamaraSFI
  First Post Date: 7/31/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
Scary Triglycerides
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TamaraSFI: Thank you, Dr. Davis.
Thank you, everyone.
We will be calling a doctor first thing tomorrow morning (Monday). I hope they get him in the same day.
Posted: 8/1/2021

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  Reference
  First Post Date: 8/1/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
WBB: Defiant Health podcast: The Loss of Empathy (and how to bring it back)
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  SpiNNy
  First Post Date: 7/30/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
Unexpected weight loss
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  Park
  First Post Date: 8/1/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
SIBO Yogurt
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  Warrior
  First Post Date: 8/1/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
Is Drinking Wheat Grass power in voliation of UNDOCTORED
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  Vince
  First Post Date: 6/26/2014,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
Studies on fish oil
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Warrior: Thank you Dr. Davis!  I love the program, following the program and taking my omega 3 vitamins, now I just need to get a CIT test score!
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  lfr5303
  First Post Date: 8/1/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
NMR & other results, Echo, CAC, Lp(a)
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  JudyK
  First Post Date: 7/27/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
L. reuteri yogurt failure
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  KARLHR
  First Post Date: 6/6/2020,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
heart rate coherence
Does anyone know which heart rate coherence monitor is best to date? I can’t seem to find updated info.
Hx  my husband is 2 yrs post CABG 
yr 1 random short periods of AFib
Yr 2 no episodes after adding Mg water (plus the other undoctored protocols) but all of a sudden it is back with a vengeance; increased frequency and now hours in duration - current state 18 hrs AFib. 
He’s taking Eliquis.


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KARLHR: Thanks Dr Davis. I’ll give those a try. My searches hadn’t come up with recent reviews on any of the monitors - good to know you’ve had success.
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  First Post Date: 7/30/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
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  PTrooper1
  First Post Date: 8/1/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
Digesting the results of first CAC, maybe thinking too deeply
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  JudyK
  First Post Date: 8/1/2021,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
Troubles with L. reuteri "yogurt"
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JudyK: Ok, sorry. I just realized that was a link. I hadn’t seen your reply to the other thread and thought this one would be different. Thanks
Posted: 8/1/2021

JudyK: This is the original thread. I had another but didn’t ask these questions.
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  KristineW
  First Post Date: 12/2/2020,   Last Post Date: 8/1/2021
sibo yoghurt- bnr17
My aire devise numbers are very low with bnr 17 - 0.7; 0.9 . No sibo symptoms.  I am also continuing to have sifo die offs every day.   I’m losing waist circumference gradually.  My sinuses seem to be healing as well.  Im eating about 1/2 cup of nogurt every two days that is a combination of Yakult, L. Reuteri, and BNR 17.   I am taking 2 drops of cinnamon bark per day in my coffee.  I am very thankful for Dr. Davis and the Undoctored program. Hoping to get friends to join who desperately need the help.

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  ShanMan
  First Post Date: 7/27/2021,   Last Post Date: 7/31/2021
Coconut yogurt / Xanthan Gum
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Dr. Davis : I don’t know why, but the presence of xanthum gum seems to promote separation, while guar gum does not. 
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  Bill Hart
  First Post Date: 12/5/2020,   Last Post Date: 7/31/2021
Dr. Davis I’m curious if you see much value in CIMT tests? ...
Dr. Davis I’m curious if you see much value in CIMT tests? I never see them mentioned here. In late Summer this year, my first ever calcium score was 171 (I’m 58). I also got a CIMT test. The results were even scarier - 80yrd old carotids...uggh.

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  Sherrie63
  First Post Date: 1/7/2021,   Last Post Date: 7/31/2021
FOS for clove tea
Is this product consider FOS for the clove tea? I thought Inulin was not the same as FOS, but it says it is FOS on my bag. That’s what in using in my clove tea, with nothing added for sweetness as I don’t like sweetened tea. 

Nihon Koko Rose: I agree.  I think this product is NOT the form Undoctored requires.
Posted: 7/31/2021

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Nihon Koko Rose: I called Micronutrients a month ago, and they said their Inulin was Jeruselum artichoke.
Posted: 7/31/2021


  goodraw2
  First Post Date: 7/31/2021,   Last Post Date: 7/31/2021
What to make of these Aire readings?
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Lucky Lime: I wouldn’t inforced One bacteria only  if I have some stomach problems... go for diversity! :))
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  Fitness
  First Post Date: 7/29/2021,   Last Post Date: 7/31/2021
RESULTS FROM MY FIRST NMR TESTS
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Thanks LCL! . I just hope it stays that way? 

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  xtronics
  First Post Date: 3/22/2020,   Last Post Date: 7/31/2021
Relative risks - Coronavirus
Not understanding the attention gap  ... tell me where I am wrong ..

Corona virus - peek (so far) about 50-deaths/day
Car accidents - about -- 100/day  ( all age groups )
Death due to lead exposure  1095/day ( mostly older )

Lancet paper says something like number one cause of early death could well be lead exposure - low levels matter..

The paper says :

"Although we cannot exclude residual confounding, we estimate that about 400 000 deaths are attributable to lead exposure every year in the USA, of which 250 000 are from cardiovascular disease. Concentrations of lead in blood lower than 5 μg/dL (<0·24 μmol/L) are an important, but largely ignored, risk factor for death in the USA, particularly from cardiovascular disease."

"Our findings suggest that, of 2·3 million deaths every year in the USA, about 400 000 are attributable to lead exposure, an estimate that is about ten times larger than the current one."

So my take is 400,000 deaths a year is more important than the coronavirus by - how do I say this? -- A WHOLE LOT !!!  ...

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30025-2/fulltext

,.,.,.
Those wanting to reduce their risk might want to consider BG and fattyacids..

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2020/03/ards-and-linoleic-acid.html
http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2020/03/cell-surface-oxygen-consumption-4.html

( I have not had influenza after I started low-carb - many many years ago... )
,.,.

Also - might be a link with people taking ace inhibitors and NSAIDs -- too soon to tell (I’ve said before that NSAIDs are not as safe as people think - I would only take a fever reducer if I had a fever over 103.5 - but then I might just do cold compresses..):

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/03/18/coronavirus-covid-19/

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/03/22/covid-19-update/


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  Transcripts
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Discussion Thread: SIBO Protocol Transcript
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  Bob Niland
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goodraw2: Ok,
I see I’m not the only one getting this.
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  Nihon Koko Rose
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Doxepin Afib Sleep and the Brain
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Nihon Koko Rose: Thank you so much Doctor.

Your distinction is a very important concept to adopt.  I will work on your program and switch my focus.

Rose
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MAKING NOGURT W/ RENEW LIFE 50B
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  Rodney D
  First Post Date: 1/23/2020,   Last Post Date: 7/30/2021
Boron?

There was some interesting talk about boron during the vmeet on 1/23/19. The suggestion that Borax can be taken for the elemental boron it contains should be elucidated here so that aren’t any Borax OD’s. My lower back is riddled with arthritis and if the addition of boron to the K2, D3, and MultiVits could help then I would love to try it...the LE 2perday MV I take (I only take 1/day) already has 3mg (1.5mg for me) of boron...is more better?

I would like to be certain the formula is correct for mixing the borax with water. On the vmeet they mentioned the "20 Mule Team" brand and I would like that clarified if someone could. I found a "food grade" borax product on Amazon that had some mixing capacities in the comment section and wonder if they are correct...one person said - 1 tsp/L of water, take two tsp from that and mix into water bottle 2x/day?

Borax - All Natural Sodium Borate 10 MOL Mineral Powder, 16 Ounce

This is on the 20 Mule Team site: https://www.20muleteamlaundry.com/compare/borax-vs-boric-acid/

Thanks!

 


JamesL: I’ve recently seen that boron is helpful for vitamin D absorption and testosterone levels among other benefits.  But my D levels test on the high side so should I consider reducing my daily D3 (5000IU) before taking boron?
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  Malcolm
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  Fitness
  First Post Date: 7/27/2021,   Last Post Date: 7/29/2021
Audio long-read: How ancient people learned to love carbs. Interesting read.!
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Fitness: 

James: I thought so too!

This is the written version. Easier to finish. 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01681-w

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  DarleenMB
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Is anyone familiar with Microbiome Labs? Specifically for th...
Is anyone familiar with Microbiome Labs? Specifically for their "Megaspore Biotic" and "MegaPre Reinforce" products.

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Sugar Shift Pro-gurt & blood glucose results?
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GSH1965: Thanks for the link. Good explanation of how I damaged my arteries over the years.

His short video on coffee is good. 
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