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  Fitness
  First Post Date: 9/28/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
This is How I Eat . How do you?...

This is pretty much how I eat every day. 
This time is sautéed organic red kale with garlic, olive oil, Annatto powder, a small amount of Olive Oil, Rice bran oil, etc.

Surrounded by lightly sautéed Calamari with spices, low salt soy sauce, a splash of Mirin, Ponzu sauce, capers, soaked dried shiitake mushrooms, soaked “Dashi Kombu” dried seaweed etc. It turned out very tender, satisfying & tasty. If I may say so!... 

So,  am I overdoing the carbohydrates?... Tell me if I am... 

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Ian989: Looks great. That chicken broth looks like it would be very rich tasting. Nice colour 
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  Mcdonv03
  First Post Date: 9/29/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
worried about my digestive issues; would endoscopy or colonoscopy help?

 Hi all, 

I hope someone can give input on my symptoms. 

I’ve been on Dr. Davis’ program for about four years, not perfectly, but grains were eliminated and I was doing well with the supplements recommended.  My carbs were not at 15 gm per meal, so I monitored my HgA1C and, sporadically, my blood sugars by fingerstick.  My HgA1C hovers around 5.5%.  Basically my diet is more high fat, adequate protein, low carb.   I stopped all dairy a couple weeks ago, except for occasional heavy cream in coffee.  I stopped all nuts about a month ago.  Chocolate is only occasional.  

About one year ago, I started noticing digestive issues becoming more pronounced.  Indigestion, gas and bloating.  I tried one course of the herbal antimicrobials along with essential oils for two weeks.  There was slight improvement in bloating, but not with indigestion or gas.  When I stopped the treatment, everything is back to bloating, gas and indigestion.  My appetite has been poor and seems to be getting worse.  My gut sticks out slightly.  When I do eat, I eat 2-3 bites and I’m full, and my gut gets more bloated so it’s uncomfortable.  If I eat past 6 or 7 pm at night, I can’t lie down in bed to sleep at 10 pm because of the discomfort in my gut.  I’ve been reclining on pillows in bed and falling asleep that way.

I feel that something is wrong.  I asked my doctor for a referral to a GI doctor.  He is probably going to want to do an endoscopy and/or a colonoscopy. 

Has anyone else had this problem?  Progressive gas, bloating, indigestion, little to no appetite, satiety reached quickly, gut sticks out.  I am not heavy, I’m 5’10”, and usually weigh 165 lbs; but over the last six months I’m down to 157 lbs.  All my routine blood tests are normal, except for some high thyroid antibodies.  My BMs are every other day and look normal. 

Do you think I should get an endoscopy and/or colonoscopy?  

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Virginia


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Mcdonv03: Thank you Bob and Dr. Davis!

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  leo1978
  First Post Date: 9/23/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
Your thoughts: Impact of Statins on Cardiovascular Outcomes Following Coronary Artery Calcium Scorin

Sorry I haven’t had a chance to reply to your previous comments, will do so shortly
I just found this article and would like to hear your opinions
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Impact of Statins on Cardiovascular Outcomes Following Coronary Artery Calcium Scoring
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6309473/

Looks like under 100 the statins didn’t help much....


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  leo1978
  First Post Date: 9/29/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
Heart rate reduction with chromium picolinate
Hi I’m wondering if anyone has experimented with chromium supplementation.
I have for a while and found my resting heart rate would drop significantly like 10-15 bpm if I take 800 mcg per day at least.
Then I read too much of it  for too long could be toxic to the kidneys and that allegedly chromium gtf has no such toxicity.
I then switched to the gtf form, same dose, and it did nothing...
Switched back to picolinate and works....

Fitness: Which is one do you think it’s better?
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Malcolm: Fitness:

Yes, I believe chromium polynicotinate is niacin-bound chromium. 
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  leo1978
  First Post Date: 9/30/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
Is sd-LDL the ’bad guy’?
As I’m reading into all this undoctored material, I wonder if sdLDL is the small LDL particle we are talking about, the one that the grain-free diet is minimizing/eliminating.

If yes, I wonder if flaxseed would make sense as an alternative/additional omega3 source, inspired by this study I found:

"Flaxseed oil intake reduces serum small dense low-density lipoprotein concentrations in Japanese men: a randomized, double blind, crossover study" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25896182/
They used 10grams, that’s quite a bit, I don’t know if I can swallow that much....but if it helps why not? And then of course there’s always the question of possible side effects....

And which other supplements and foods work against sd-LDL levels?
Thanks everyone!


leo1978: Bob that’s a brilliant hint and thanks for the link, I’ll keep that in mind about the dosage
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  Daisy2
  First Post Date: 9/30/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
SIBO Treatment

Hello everyone! I am new here and have been doing Wheat Belly since May. I am currently being treated for SIBO by an integrative medicine doctor I am working with. I am on my second day of taking Rifaximin and Metronidazole and she advised me to stop probiotics during my course of treatment. I was reading over the information and watching videos on this site and just wanted to make sure I am doing things correctly to move in a positive direction. I would continue to take prebiotics during my course of antibiotic treatment, correct? Do I have to follow the FODMAP diet or just eliminate certain foods? Is it normal to have loose stools during treatment? I am just feeling a bit overwhelmed and appreciate any feedback. Thank you!


Daisy2: Hi Bob - Thank you for your feed back. I have been doing Wheat Belly since May and my doctor supports that. I do not have the AIRE device.
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  LynnM
  First Post Date: 9/30/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
When treating "die off" after ingestion of L Reute...
When treating "die off" after ingestion of L Reuteri yogurt, can I take activated charcoal concomitantly with the yogurt with no fear of disrupting positive effects of yogurt on bowel flora?

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  Fitness
  First Post Date: 9/29/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
How to Rotate a Picture once is inserted in a Post?
Could somebody help me with how to rotate a picture one is already inserted in a post?

Thank you!

Fitness: 
Thanks Bob!

I will give it a try. 

....
I tried but it did not work!

It just deleted the image from my post.
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  hopscotch
  First Post Date: 9/3/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
Magnesium Water double batch using seltzer water
With 2 adults drinking magnesium water, it’s most convenient to make up more concentrated batches and then dilute them as they are used. With the changeover from milk of magnesia to magnesium hydroxide, here is how I make it.

A 2-liter bottle of Kroger seltzer water is already chilled in the refrigerator.

I bring 3 ounces of filtered water to a boil, then add 3 level teaspoons of magnesium hydroxide to it. I stir to wet the magnesium hydroxide; it does not stay in suspension. (I tried both cold and hot water and had more success using hot water.)

I gently open the seltzer and pour off 2 ounces. I give the magnesium hydroxide in water another quick stir and pour it into the seltzer bottle. I quickly cap the seltzer bottle and shake it, holding the bottle about 135 degrees from vertical.

When I work in the kitchen at the same time, I can see when magnesium hydroxide falls to the bottom of the bottle. Then I shake the bottle again. I don’t shake it vigorously, but just enough. Then I leave it alone till magnesium hydroxide falls out again.

Eventually the sides of the bottle suck in, and the basic reaction is finished. I loosen and re-tighten the cap, but I don’t hear any more carbon dioxide hissing out. I continue watching for magnesium hydroxide to fall out. Each time, I shake the bottle and loosen and re-tighten the cap. These smaller reactions continue till the solution is clear.

Total time today was 1-3/4 hours till clear. There’s approximately 44 mg magnesium per ounce of this magnesium water.

Over time a few flakes fall out of solution, but I’m satisfied that this will work going forward.

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  Toby Lime
  First Post Date: 6/18/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
Which supplements should I blame for acne?
Which supplements should I blame for acne? For few months I have very persistent acne in armpits & groin. Where should I put my suspicion?
1. Two scoops of collagen in my morning coffee.
2. MCT powder and Acacia. 
3. Cocoa powder.
4. Too much vitamin D...I have 25 hiddroxy over 80.
5. Too much magnesium water.
6. Low iron of 71.
7. Kelp with 400 iodine.
8. Fish oil. 
9. Brazilian nuts. 2-3 /day
10. Lr yogurt.

Best  Regards ,
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Toby Lime: ... I will stop eating any yogurt  to see what’s going on... :(
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  Toby Lime
  First Post Date: 9/26/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
One big Health phenomena
Someone has to explain the phenomenon called President Trump...
( for some people I should say: calm down)... I mean from health perspective.

The guy is eating burgers and other junk food,
sleeping for 4 hours,
working for 20,
he it’s over 70 years old and full of energy,
probably the only exercise that he’s doing is golfing,
has three wives and big bunch of children,
build  financial Empire - twice,
for more than 10 years got very successful show on TV,
now he is ruling the world and America,
crazy Democrats torture him everyday with made-up stories that can kill a normal person... he’s overweight and doesn’t take any medication except for hair growing...
he remembers the names of half of the country and everything else....
seems like the Energizer Bunny: going and going and going and going...

I guess this is why some people cannot stand him... people don’t understand this energy and success.

My Philosophy is that he’s always doing something. When he’s done with something he’s looking for something new... he is workaholic and huge optimist. He likes to be outside and  gets a lot of sunshine.

I remember once he said:  "well, I wish I can lose some weight"
...he never did, but he is pretty healthy for his age.  I wonder what is his cholesterol or CT scan?

He never had a single alkohol-drink or smoke anything, but I guess he had a healthy sexual life... maybe those are another reasons .

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  Davidr
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
My CT angiogram shows 2 50% blockages in the LAD, cardiologi...
My CT angiogram shows 2 50% blockages in the LAD, cardiologist says do an angiogram. I have reservations re this invasive procedure, possible stents & blood thinners. Can I reduce blockages naturally using L. Reuteri, iodine, magnesium &MK7?

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  xtronics
  First Post Date: 3/22/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
Relative risks - Coronavirus
Not understanding the attention gap  ... tell me where I am wrong ..

Corona virus - peek (so far) about 50-deaths/day
Car accidents - about -- 100/day  ( all age groups )
Death due to lead exposure  1095/day ( mostly older )

Lancet paper says something like number one cause of early death could well be lead exposure - low levels matter..

The paper says :

"Although we cannot exclude residual confounding, we estimate that about 400 000 deaths are attributable to lead exposure every year in the USA, of which 250 000 are from cardiovascular disease. Concentrations of lead in blood lower than 5 μg/dL (<0·24 μmol/L) are an important, but largely ignored, risk factor for death in the USA, particularly from cardiovascular disease."

"Our findings suggest that, of 2·3 million deaths every year in the USA, about 400 000 are attributable to lead exposure, an estimate that is about ten times larger than the current one."

So my take is 400,000 deaths a year is more important than the coronavirus by - how do I say this? -- A WHOLE LOT !!!  ...

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30025-2/fulltext

,.,.,.
Those wanting to reduce their risk might want to consider BG and fattyacids..

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2020/03/ards-and-linoleic-acid.html
http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2020/03/cell-surface-oxygen-consumption-4.html

( I have not had influenza after I started low-carb - many many years ago... )
,.,.

Also - might be a link with people taking ace inhibitors and NSAIDs -- too soon to tell (I’ve said before that NSAIDs are not as safe as people think - I would only take a fever reducer if I had a fever over 103.5 - but then I might just do cold compresses..):

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/03/18/coronavirus-covid-19/

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/03/22/covid-19-update/


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  Sherrie63
  First Post Date: 9/26/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/30/2020
Flu vaccine?
If you’d like to share..are you or are you not getting the flu vaccine and why/why not? I’m undecided. I like to hear your thoughts. Does the current Covid situation change what you normally would do?

Vince: I got my flu on September, 15. I get a flu shot every year. Does it prevent the flu?  I really don’t know.
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  First Post Date: 9/29/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/29/2020
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  mgcolorado
  First Post Date: 9/28/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/29/2020
Aortic Valve Stenosis

Dr. Davis,

You might remember that I discussed my aortic valve stenosis finding on a Wednesday night meetup about a year ago. At that time, an EBCT scan indicated the possibility of aortic valve calcification and an echocardiogram was recommended. If I’m correctly interpreting the echocardiogram results of 07/12/19, my aortic valve area was 1.8cm. 

I had a follow up echocardiogram performed on 9/14/20 from a different source and technician. Again, I’m not sure I’m interpreting it correctly, but It seems to indicate that my aortic valve area increased to 2.1cm. I’m not sure whether or not I should be excited by this new result due to my lack of expertise in this area. 

My treatment included increasing my supplementation of 25-hydorxy vitamin D from 6000 IU/Day to 13000 IU/Day beginning in August, 2019 and continuing. On 1/13/20 my 25-hydroxy vitamin D blood level had risen to 85. Continuing with the same 13000 IU/Day on 8/28/20 it had risen to 92.

Below are the 2 echocardiogram results. Hopefully, they make sense. I had to copy and paste the information. I’d really appreciate your help in interpreting the results.

I have other interesting results related to my overall health.

Michael

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ECHOCARDIOGRAM REPORT

 

Date 07/12/2019

Name  MICHAEL

Sex Male

Sonographer PORTER, RDCS ROMS RVT, ROBIN M

Referred By DR. GERBER, JEFFRY Birthdate 07/1961 Age57

 

Referral Reasons ABN STRESS, BRADY, CAO

Findings

ECG rhythm: Sinus rhythm. Study quality: This was a technically good study. 2D imaging, color flow and doppler were used.

Left Ventricle: LV size, wall thickness and systolic function are normal, with an EF of 60%. The diastolic filling pattern Is normal for the age of the patient

Left Atrium: The left atrial size is normal.

Right Ventricle: The right ventricle Is normal in size and function.

Right Atrium: The right atrial size is normal.

Aortic Valve: Trace amount of aortic regurgitation. Mild aortic stenosis with peak/mean pressure gradient of 29.11mmHg / 16.30mmHg, the aortic valve area by continuity equation is 1.8cm2. The dimensionless Index is 0.48.

Mitral Valve: The mitral valve is normal. There is trace mitral regurgitation.

Tricuspid Valve: The tricuspid valve appears structurally normal. Trace tricuspid regurgitation present. RVSP could not be measured due to inadequate TR.

Pulmonic Valve: Trace/mild (physiologic) pulmonic regurgitation.

Pericardium: There is no pericardia! effusion.

Aorta: The aortic root, ascending aorta and aortic arch are normal.

IVC/Hepatic Veins· The Inferior vena cava is normal. The hepatic veins are normal.

Summary

  1. LV size, wall thickness and systolic function are normal with an EF of 60%.
  2. Trace amount of aortic regurgitation.
  3. Mild aortic stenosis with peak/mean pressure gradient of 29.11 mmHg /16.30 mmHg, the aortic valve area by continuity equation is 1.8cm2.
  4. There is trace mitral regurgitation.
  5. Trace tricuspid regurgitation present.

    2D Measurements           Ejection Fraction                    Diastolic Function

IVSd

1.0cm

EF(Teich)

65 %

MV EVel

0. 72 mis

LVIDd

4.2cm

%FS

35%

MV DecT

295ms

LVPWd

1.1cm

 

 

MVA Vel

0.49mis

LVIDs

2.7cm

 

 

MV E/A R atio

1.46

LA Diam

3.4cm

 

 

E’

0.06mis

A oDiam

3.3cm

 

 

E/E’

12.02

LVOTDiam

2.1cm

 

 

 

 

RVDd

3.2cm

 

 

 

 

IVC

14.37 mm

 

 

 

 

 

Doppler Valvular Evaluation

LVOT maxPG          6.73mmHg

LVOT meanPG        3.43mmHg

LVOT VTI                 25.4cm

AVVmax                  2.70 m/s

AVVmean                1.91 m/s

AV maxPG              29.11 mmHg

AV meanPG            16.30 mmHg

AV VTI                     51.9 cm

AVA Vmax               1.7cm2

AVA (VTI)                 1.8cm2

PVVmax                  0.86 m/s

PV maxPG              2.92 mmHg

AVAI (Vmax)            0.00 cm squared /m squared

AVAI (VT)                 0.00 cm squared /m squared

 

 

 

=================================================================================================

ECHOCARDIOGRAM REPORT

MICHAEL 
September 14, 2020

MRN:

3598

DOB:

1961-07

Gender:

M

HR:

189

Height:

67in

BSA:

1.87m2

BMI:

25.07

Age 59, weight 160 lbs

Left Ventricle                                                       Normal

LVEDV(A4C)                          94.1 ml                      (62-150)

LVEDV(A4C)/BSA                   50.26 ml/m2             (34-74)

LVESV(A4C)                          45.4 ml                      (21-61)

LVESV(A4C) BSA                   24.25 ml/m2              (13-29)

LVEDV                                91.8 ml                     

LVESV                                  21.6 ml

EF                                        76.0%                       (52 72)

IVSd                                     0.8cm                         (0.6 - 1)

LVIDd                                   4.5cm                       (4.2 - 5.8)

LVIDd/BSA                            2.40 cm/m2            (2.1 – 3.1)

LVPWd                                 0.8cm                       (0.6 - 1)

LV FS(midwall)                       45.0%                       (14 22)

IVSs                                     1.4cm                       (0.8 1)

LVIDs                                   2.5cm                       (2.5 4)

LVPWs                                  1.4cm                       (0.9 1.8)

IVRT                                    96.0 ms                     (60 88)

LVRWT                                 0.34

LV Length D                           8.3cm

LV length S                            6.1cm

Right Ventricle

RV                                       3.2cm                      

     Left Atrium

LA(Mm)                                 3.0cm                       (3 4)

LA                                        2.8cm                       (3 4)

LA /BSA                                1.50cm/m2              (1.5 – 2.3)

 

     Mitral Valve

     MV PkE Vel                           0.8 mis                  (0.7 1.2)

MV PkA Vel                            0.7 mis                      (0.4 0.7)

MV E/A Ratio                         1.0                            (0.78 1.78)

MV Decel Time                         186.0ms                (143 219)

Septal e’                                8.41 cm/s                  (7.6 16.8)

Septal Ele’                               9.1                            (<8)

 

Tricuspid Valve

TR Pk Ve l                              2.2 mis

TR Pk Grad                              19.2 mmHg

RVSP                                     24.4 mmHg               (18 25)

 RAP                                     5.0 mmHg                    (<5)

 

     Aorta

AoD                                          2.5cm

AoD(Mm)                                   2.5cm

 

 

Aortic Valve                                          Normal

LVOTDiam             2.1cm                        (1.8-2.2)

LVOTPkVe l           1.13 mis

     LVOTPkGrad         5.1 mmHg

LVOTVTI               25.8cm                         (18-22)

     LVOTSV               70.2 ml

LVOTCO               16.7 Umin

AV Pk Vel              2.00 mis

AV Pk Grad           16.0 mmHg                (<10)

AV Mean Grad       9.1 mmHg                  (<=40)

AV VTI                    42.3cm                      (18-22)

AVA(VTI)               2.1cm2                           (>1)

AVA / BSA             1.12cm2/m2                  (>0.6)

 

Pulmonary Valve

PV PkVel               0.8 mis

PV PkGrad            2.4 mmHg

Left ventricle cavity is normal in size. Normal global wall motion.

Doppler evidence of grade I (impaired) diastolic dysfunction.
Calculated EF 76%.

Trileaflet aortic valve with trace regurgitation. Moderate aortic valve leaflet calcification.
Trace aortic valve stenosis.
Structurally normal mitral valve with trace regurgitation. Structurally normal tricuspid valve with trace regurgitation.

 


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mgcolorado: Ok. Thanks for all the advice.
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  Coach April
  First Post Date: 9/25/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/29/2020
Undoctored 101: Strategies for Success in Living this Lifestyle
If you are like me you make all sorts of to do lists: one for work, a grocery list, at home wish list tasks... but when is the last time you made a health to do list? ??
Create a list of the things you are going to do today to focus on your health. It might include:
 
* take my supplements
* drink water
* focus on getting enough fat in my day
* manage carbohydrates
* complete a module or two in the Undoctored online course (hint, hint ??)
 
Don’t over think it too much - just make a list of things that will help get you closer to your health goals; just for today! Many of us get too wrapped up in the end goal and forget to focus on each day. String those days together and you are closer to where you want to be.
 
It is so gratifying to check items off your to do list!! Plus it is a great way to see all the positive things you are doing for yourself!! Make the list as short or as detailed as you wish. But remember; it’s just for today (small goals add up to large accomplishments).  What’s on your health to do list today?

Link to download the daily log form, feel free to change it and make it work for your needs:   Daily Log.docx

 
 
 



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  Coach April
  First Post Date: 9/10/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/29/2020
Undoctored 101: Core strategy discussion - Carb Counting Tools and Resources to Find Carbs in Foods
What tools or resources are you using to find out the carbs in foods without nutrition facts labels? Please share!  One of my favorite tools to determine how many carbs are in vegetables and fruits is to Google fatsecret carbs in (fill in the food). There is a drop down menu to select your serving size.
 
Keeping carbs below 15 net per meal is a cornerstone of this lifestyle!! How is your tracking going? Are you keeping a food log to get used to it?


Coach April: I have not used it to log meals, but do use it frequently to look up carb counts in foods.  One of my favorite searches is "fatsecret carbs in..." (fill in the food).
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JannyLite: April: Did you use Fatsecret to also log your meals in beginning? I visited it for the first time today and like looking foods up there as you suggested. Nice format.

Jan
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  Herb55
  First Post Date: 9/29/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/29/2020
Blood tests
Good morning:
            I’ going to see my primary doctor in a few weeks for my annual physical.  I’d like to add additional blood tests to the ones he already does..
I remember seeing somewhere  a list of suggested blood tests that should be done, but I can’t find that list.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thank You

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  Guest
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what is causing large amount of gas and as well from the sto...
what is causing large amount of gas and as well from the stomach ?

Dr. Davis : You’re going to have to provide some context: where are you in the program, have you explored bowel flora cultivation, etc., and considered SIBO, as Bob points out.
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Bob Niland: On this program, most likely unaddressed SIBO. On standard diets, a longer list.
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  Nicky
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/29/2020
Chronic constipation 8 mos, been turning over every stone. ...
Chronic constipation 8 mos, been turning over every stone. I take body warm enemas Every 3 or 4 days... After I release bowel, I Always find a normal color brown and tiny Bright pink specs In poop... not blood...NoOne knows...can you help

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Nicky: Thanks fitness, docmass, E-laine good tips, I appreciate you taking the time to assist me....have a great day Nicky...
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  Bettyk
  First Post Date: 9/26/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/29/2020
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I am going to start the FODMAPS diet, trying to get SIBO under control. Has anyone gone this root? Did you eat the suggested grains?

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Ian989: An elemental diet might be more successful than a low fodmap diet to get SIBO under control 
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  Toby Lime
  First Post Date: 9/25/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/29/2020
leCtin - from obesity to autoimmune disease
Dr. Paul Mason - ’How lectins impact your health - from obesity to autoimmune disease I just finished listening to dr. Davis podcast about inflammation. There was an answer about lectins. Why am I interested on the subject? Because I would like to fix my problem with not losing weight and reappearance of knee formation. I’ve been listening carefully and checking my list of things that I’m doing. According to dr. Davis protocol I’m not missing anything. I do not have diabetes. My blood pressure is normal after being on the protocol for one year. I’m working in the backyard physically and I’m okay. All my markers are optimal. My inflammation is 0.7 C reactive protein. I’ve been eating healthy and delicious. I do not have any gut problem- it is proven. There’s no food that I cannot tolerate. There is nothing that I miss or desire. I never cheat. I’m optimistic generally happy person. I mentally sharp and quick ... But, of course there will be a but... I’m stuck with my weight, so I’m ready to make a limp in a different direction... direction that will solve my problem. I’m very stubborn and I believe that I can achieve my goal... I need help to figure out how to do it. Over the Internet there is an argument about prebiotics and weight loss... I would like to be on The Winning Side. Certain amount of people are turning corners to programs without Prebiotic fiber and claiming, that’s the way to lose extra weight... ?... on the other hand I don’t believe I should restrict myself from things that are not hurting me... I know the grains are my big anime... I’ve proven that. I’m not sure that sugar is so bad for me... I wasn’t a person that was eating a lot of sweets anyway... but I can live without sugar. Why my body is holding onto those extra pounds like the end of the world is coming? Help me to figure it out! :))

Toby Lime: Thanks Ian...I will... I wake up fresh like a cucumber :))
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Ian989: Let us know how it goes. What’s your sleep like as well? Do you wake up feeling refreshed or is it difficult to get out of bed after at least 7 hours of sleep?
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CharlotteA: Oh thank you so much!  I had no idea the culture could be damaged.  
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CharlotteA: Today is Day 1 of the 10 day detox.  Can I use my l. Reuteri yogurt in the blender breakfast shake?  Thank you for your help...Charlotte
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  Ashraf
  First Post Date: 8/22/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
Milk of Magnesia Alternative for Magnesium Water
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KeithM: My last order was received 02-07-20 I do not have any issue with particle size in making Mg water. 1/2 Tablespoon in 2liter bottle of seltzer water. 
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PeacefulDragon: Well, Bulk Supplements runs out on Amazon.
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JannyLite: Oh, heck, I have a 8-month old bag of Bulk Supplements in pantry. Will take it out later this week to make some Mg Water and will report.

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  First Post Date: 9/28/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
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  Rick S
  First Post Date: 6/30/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
Good Sense gone, switching to powder
My feeble search failed to find this brand anymore. So I bought a kilo of bulk MgOH. 

I think people are adding the powder each time making a liter or so of of ‘the water’. I would like to keep the exposure of the bulk to the atmosphere to a minimum. Has anybody made up MgOH water (like MoM) and then added the liquid to seltzer as before? That interim form should keep for a month or so, right?

rick

Venkat S: Good Sense Milk of Magnesia - Their Product Specialist Support responded back to my query - This item has been temporarily discontinued, and we are hoping to resume production again in early 2021.
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  Debi
  First Post Date: 9/28/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
Hungry in less than 6 hours - fat malabsorbtion?
WB WOE since Jan 2018, taking all supplements, plus turmeric and MCT oil/powder.  No wheat withdrawal symptoms, no problems with prebiotics other than not getting up to 20g.  I have actually been off prebiotics for about 2 weeks now from not taking the time to sit down and figure out the rules for the Aire device testing - I remembered something about being off prebiotics.
I am often hungry in less than 6 hours even when I have had my almost 0 carb breakfast drink with 2 Tbsp of EVOO, 2 Tbsp avocado oil and 1 Tbsp MCT oil or a scoop of MCT oil powder.
I do not have oil droplets or a ring in the toilet, but my stool does generally float. 
Treat for SIBO?
Is this why I get hungry?  I putting fat in my mouth, but my body is not absorbing it?
No?  Stress/nerves? 
Aire device results seem inconsistent showing low numbers and/or little change, but it also has been telling me "high humidity" and then it won’t take a sample for 30-60 min.
Yesterday, I did not get reaction to inulin.
This morning, my #s were:

7:13 – 2.3 – before food
7:45 – 1.2 – after drink with inulin – might have been 22-25 min. since I had not blended my drink yet!
8:15 – “too humid” - no test
9:09 – 6.6 – that was within the 90-minute window.  Up 5.4 from ½-hour after. So that would idicate SIBO?
I had previously blown a 10 twice, but I did not record the circumstances.  Because of that, I ordered the Candibactin AR, Candibactin BR and NAC and have it on hand.  I have some essential oils.
I have not started taking any pills yet.
Thanks for your input.


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  guitarplayer007
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New product that Dr. Wolfson is talking about
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Pek: This hit my radar as well.  
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  KLRGUY
  First Post Date: 7/24/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
UAS Labs is offering a free sample of a new product that, pe...
UAS Labs is offering a free sample of a new product that, perhaps, we can use to get hold of BNR17. Sample Product: BNR17 + DDS + SUNFIBER Probiotic Powder. Here’s the link: https://uaslabs.com/free-sample-request/

Debi: I fgured out my problem from when I could not figure out how to order - BROWSER!
I was using Chrome.  When I tried Edge, I had an order form that I could not see in Chrome.
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Rodney D: KLR, this thread has more info on what progress is being made. I am still waiting on my sample.
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KLRGUY: Anyone had luck making Nogurt with this yet?
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  James1959
  First Post Date: 9/23/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
APOe4 Genotypes on the Undoctored Program

I thought I’d start a new discussion topic specifically addressing the concerns of those of us who have the APOe4 genotype.   About 22% of people have this genotype, so a pretty large chunk of the readership of the Undoctored Inner Circle might find this relevant.

I’d welcome any comments, questions, guidance from anyone with an interest in and/or knowledge about the implications of the Undoctored protocols for the APOe4-ers among us.

My own initial post describes my ongoing  n=1 experiment with placing modest limits on saturated fats, in view of my APO genotype (I have one copy: rs429358) and my persistently sky-high LDL-P and Small LDL-P particle numbers while complying with the Undoctored protocols for a year (including unlimited consumption of saturated fat). 

My experiment is also precipitated by the quadrupling of my CAC score over the last year (from 0-0-0-10 to 0-0-0-40), which was a real wake-up call.

I was advised to rule out SIBO as a cause of my extreme lipid distortions.  I obtained a “Commonwealth Diagnostics International (CDI) SIBO Breath Test Kit” and submitted my samples.  The results should be here any day now.  

My diet experiment is this: Continue complying with the Undoctored protocols in all respects, except introduce some reasonable restraints on saturated fat consumption.  It began on August 26th (the day after I received my follow-up CAC score).    

My net carb intake each day occurs during a 5-6 hour eating window in my intermittent fasting regimen.  I had been under-complying with the Undoctored net carb limits by consuming much less than 15g net carbs per meal, and eating only two meals a day, not three.  In the last few weeks I’ve taken care to consume 40-something grams of net carbs during my daily eating window.  So while I have remained in general compliance with net carb limits, I’m sure my actual net carbs consumption has increased substantially compared to my under-consumption over the last year.  My average daily consumption of net carbs since August 26th so far has been 43g.

I didn’t track my saturated fat consumption over the last year, but with a retrospective calculation my best guess is I had been consuming between 35g and 55g of saturated fat each day.  On many days I likely exceeded 70g.  The limits I’ve placed on saturated fats (and only saturated fats), without too much effort or inconvenience, have been reducing my daily consumption of SFs by significantly more than half.  My daily SF consumption since August 26th so far has averaged about 14g.

My most recent lab results from August 11th were as follows:

Fasting glucose:       74

A1c:                          5.0

Fasting Insulin:         7

LDL-C:                       195

HDL-C:                       51

LDL-P:                        2760

Small LDL-P:              1329

Triglycerides:              67

TG/HDL Ratio:            1.3

My next round of labs is expected to be October 5th, and I’ll post those results when I get them.

In the meantime, I look forward to as much crowd-sourcing of useful information specifically relevant for APOe4-ers on the Undoctored program as there is interest. 


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  Toby Lime
  First Post Date: 9/28/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
Taking vitamin D every 2 days?
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ptheut: 90 is fine
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  alex235711
  First Post Date: 9/28/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
Crowdsource diagnosis yay!
Hi all,

Thank you for perusing this post.

I know my symptom on the skin is visually stressful, so I appreciate the opportunity to possibly rid myself of it, since its been 4-5 years and still cannot find a solution.




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  PeacefulDragon
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
Results of my two Viome tests
I just received the results of my second Viome test. First test was done in June 2019.

Overall gut Microbiome Health score increased from 40 to 48.

Highlights:
  * Active Microbial Diversity: 14th --> 84th
  * Gut Lining Health: 37 --> 78
  * Metabolic Fitness: 12-->24

Low lights:
  * Digestive Efficiency: 75 --> 35
  * Protein Fermentation: 25 --> 81
  * Gas production: 25 --> 65
  * Coffee, Kefir, Yogurt are added to the avoid list.

I am encouraged by some of the changes for example the dramatic Active Microbial Diversity increase, but not totally convinced by the accuracy of the results and recommendations. For examples, I don’t plan to give up my Nogurt or coffee based on the latest recommendation. I am wondering if anyone else in the group has also done Viome tests and would like to share experience.

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  livemusic
  First Post Date: 9/28/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
Weight loss affecting tests results
I swelled up like a pig this year, blame it on covid staying in plus maybe stress and eating wrong. I am now down 15 lbs, that helps. Gonna keep losing quite a bit more.

I have read that weight loss can affect lipid values, what about other measurements?

My vit D was low a couple, maybe three years ago and I would like to get tested again.

I also continue to have trouble with leg pain and it is just weird, I don’t understand it and I think I am just going to get ’checked out.’ People say it’s just aging or arthritis kicking in but I am not convinced. I was hoping 15 lbs of weight loss would make a difference but it hasn’t. So, they will likely do routine blood work along with whatever else they do.

Would these tests be accurate? FWIW, I don’t recall ever having a doc ask me if my weight has been in a steady state.

Dr. Davis : Here is a video I posted on this topic. 

Vitamin D blood levels, however, are not affected by weight loss.
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  richandmarti
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
How do I avoid weight loss while on Undoctored meal plan?
I am 71 years old, 5’6" and weigh 145 lbs.  I work out regularly with Crossfit.  My problem is losing weight when I am on a strict low carb, grain free diet.
Dr. Davis, what do you recommend I do so that I don’t lose weight, and remain heart healthy?
Is there a limit on how much beef to eat per day, if I am not wanting to lose weight?
Rich Russell

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Fitness: Hummm.. I thought He was asking about not “loosing weight”?  not gaining weight?  I am confused?.. 
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  kangarouge
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/28/2020
role of arteries post-bypass
I’d be grateful for an explanation of exactly what arteries like the LAD and RCA do once there’s been surgery to bypass them. Is there still blood flow in these ’original’ vessels, and if so what happens if there’s a rupture? In theory such a rupture with a potential 100% blockage would no longer result in a heart attack, because the new bypass graft is keeping blood flowing to the heart. Is that correct?

Obviously the UIC protocol is important for keeping the ’new’ artery grafts healthy, but is it still important to keep the old arteries as plaque free as possible?

Also, is it worth having ongoing CT scans after a bypass, and if so would the aim be to measure the old or new arteries, or both? I have a bypass operation coming up, and intend to continue with the protocol afterwards, but if CT scans are problematic in those circumstances, what are the best ways to monitor cardio health in the future?
 

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  searcher7
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/27/2020
Excess rice intake was associated with incident type 2 diabetes

Data from the large multinational Prospective, Urban Rural Epidemiological Study (PURE study) just published online in the American Journal Diabetes Care, confirms an association between excess white rice intake with incident type 2 diabetes.

Commenting on the results, Dr. Bhavadharini Balaji, first author of the paper, said that, "This is the largest study on white rice intake and incident diabetes ever done. It is also one of the first to be done across different countries and confirms that white rice intake is one of the contributors to the diabetes epidemic in South Asia".

Dr. V. Mohan, the second author of the paper, who conceived the study, added, "We have earlier shown in the Chennai Urban Rural Epidemiological study (CURES study) that there was an association of white rice intake with prevalent diabetes. Further follow up of the CURES study over 10 years showed that excess white rice consumption was also associated with new-onset (incident) diabetes in South India, particularly in Chennai. However, this study adds to the evidence because it was conducted on much larger sample size, (n=132,2371 participants) across 21 countries and with a longer period of follow up.
Sales of white rice have risen sharply during the COVID-19 pandemic because rice is cheap.

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  Guest
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I am trying to enroll in the undoctored inner circle, but the application states that my email information is already in use since I am enrolled in the Wheat Belly Blog. What do I do?

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Eosonophilic Esophagitis undoctered friendly?
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  Jeff Glass
  First Post Date: 4/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/27/2020
Should I supplement with iodine?
I have been on Undoctored for over six months. However I elected to refrain from iodine supplementation because I was unsure whether this was necessary in my case.

I may have some minor symptoms of hypothyroidism, including a tendency to feel cold, dry skin, and thinning hair. But hey, I’m nearly 63! 

More significantly, I have a high CAC score (1,298), which may indicate possible chronic hypothyroidism.

I am not on any medications and overall feel healthy. I am under the care of a cardiologist and we are trying various tweaks to my diet to work on my high LDL-P, but I’m not on a statin, at least not yet. I realize, after re-reading the section in Undoctored about thyroid that chronic hypothyroidism can contribute to CVD, so my thyroid status and possible need for intervention is a serious question.

Here are recent thyroid test results, with reference ranges on the right side of the table

Free T3 Available T3 2.6 pg/mL 2.3-4.2
Free T4 Available T4 1.4 ng/dL 0.8-1.8
Free Thyroxine Index A Thyroxine Index 1.7 1.4-3.8
Reverse T3 Reverse T3, Serum 13 ng/dL 8-25
T-Uptake Thyroxine Binding Sites 41 % 22-35
TSH Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone 2.39 mIU/L 0.40-4.50
Thyroxine (T4, total) Total thyroxine (T4) level 4.1 ?g/dL 4.9-10.5
Triiodothyronine (T3, total) Total triiodothyronine (T3) 59 ng/dL 76-181

If anyone can tell me whether these look fine relative to the program or if I should take some action (such as taking iodine) I’d appreciate feedback.

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How do I contact iron Man? I want to be involved in the microbiome testing

JannyLite: Quoted From Fitness: I would just post a message in one of his many posts. I am sure he will see it.

But preferable to use Private Messaging for personal info.
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  Boo
  First Post Date: 9/15/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/27/2020
What does being "Undoctored" mean to you?
Not just what does the word mean.  
How do you apply that to your health care?


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  Bob Niland
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/27/2020
>AmyB: Citrobacter freundii infection
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AmyB: OK, thanks Bob.  Unless I hear differently from Dr. Davis I will buy the stuff for the SIBO protocol and start on that this week.  Thanks so much for taking the time to help me figure this out. 
  
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  Coach April
  First Post Date: 9/21/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/27/2020
Undoctored 101: Prebiotic Fiber Strategies

Undoctored PrEbiotic Fibers

Please see Undoctored book: pages 257 – 267 for more information. 

I created this document as a summary:  Undoctored PrEbiotic Fibers.pdf

Start only after you have had prObiotics for at least three days.  START SLOW!!!  10 grams per day and work your way up to 20 grams per day.  Be sure to get VARIETY in your prebiotic fibers each day.  We don’t want to get all 20 grams from one source.  Switch it up!              https://blog.undoctored.com/foods-rich-prebiotic-fibers/

Links to some prebiotic sources can be found here:


https://www.wheatbellyblog.com/wheat-belly-marketplace-everything-you-need-to-succeed-on-the-wheat-belly-lifestyle/
 

  • Acacia powder (see label for fiber grams) 0 net carbs
  • Green bananas and plantains: 10.9 grams per 1 medium (7-inch) banana (0 gram net carbs

  • Raw white potato: 10 to 12 grams per 1⁄2 medium (0 gram net carbs) Note: Avoid any raw potatoes with green skin, as this is a fungus. If encountered, peel off the skin
  • Hummus or chick peas: 8 grams per 1⁄2 cup (13.5 grams netcarbs)
  • Lentils: 2.5 grams per 1⁄2 cup (11 grams net carbs)
  • Beans: 3.8 grams per 1⁄2 cup: white beans are the richest with twice this quantity (12 grams net carbs)

Notes: Modest quantity of prebiotic fibers in apples: 0.8 g, avocados: 2.4 g, blackberries: 1.4 g, blueberries: 0.8 g, raspberries: 1.6 g, pears: 1 gram, around 1 grams from peas, jicama, turnips, parsnips, onions, garlic and root vegetables (in the raw state)

Values for prebiotic content vary depending on the source and the method used to measure. 

If you experience gas, bloating or digestive distress after prEbiotic fibers, stop taking them for a few weeks and then slowly start them again.  If it continues to cause issues you may have to look into SIBO, SIFO, etc.

 The link to the online course: https://innercircle.undoctored.com/course/Undoctored_Health_Welcome_WNU



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Coach April: This was 2 servings.
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  Keoni61
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/27/2020
How do I contact iron Man? I want to be involved in the micr...
How do I contact iron Man? I want to be involved in the microbiome testing

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  SaraLou
  First Post Date: 9/27/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/27/2020
Hi, I have been suffering very bad eczema for months now on ...
Hi, I have been suffering very bad eczema for months now on my hands but also a little bit on other parts of my body. It is only getting worse. it is tiny blisters all over my hands that eventually dry up and return. Does anyone have any advice? TIA

SaraLou: Thanks for your responses and advice, I have the aire device so will do the inulin test and see if I get a reaction for SIBO. My mother has suffered with chronic urticaria for over 20 years so I think I got the sensitive gene passed down to me!
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Dr. Davis : Hop is absolutely correct: You likely have a raging case of SIBO/SIFO. 

See the Undoctored Protocol for SIBO and the Advanced Topic on Fungal Overgrowth to get started. 
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  AmyB
  First Post Date: 9/26/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/27/2020
Citrobacter freundii infection
I just got around to reading my GI Effects results from a year ago.  :)   I have/had a very high Citrobacter freundii bacterial count. 

Family  Enterobacter
Genus Citrobacter
Species freundii

The information I received from GI Effects lists several antibiotics and natural agents like berberine and oregano oil that are effective against this bacteria.  This leads me to believe that I should be treating this?  What do you think? 


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  acanthusbk
  First Post Date: 9/19/2020,   Last Post Date: 9/26/2020
Xanthan Gum
I’ve avoided xanthan gum and other emulsifiers for a number of years. Was just looking at recipes here (not member-provided recipes, but the "professional" Undoctored recipes) and the Chocolate Coconut Bread in the Baked Goods category calls for xanthan gum as an ingredient. WHAT?????

I then searched the forum and found a fairly recent reply by Dr. Davis to a question about whether guar and xanthan gums are safe. His reply: " Guar gum is an uncertainty. I know of no problems with xanthan gum. "

Couldn’t find any other comments about whether xanthan gum is now considered ok.

acanthusbk: Thank you Dr D!
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acanthusbk: Bump.

Does anyone know whether there is now a recommended maximum amount of xanthan gum per meal? Per day?
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